30.11.04

Will it be Christmas then?

The 'lovely Nina', so I hear, is saying, so I'm told, to many people, that she will hold a funeral at Christmas.

So, that will be interesting.

Will the Authorities, who are involved in this fiasco of a murder allow it?

That would be even more interesting.

It's not that it would matter too much to my sister and I. (Well, it has been over 7 months after all.) It's just that it is interesting to note how much people seem to think they can manipulate the so-called 'proper authorities'. Perhaps they can't. Who can tell?

What I find to be of overwhelming interest is, the number of people who have given me information.
Where it is accurate, it is invaluable.

It will be exciting to notice whether my father's funeral is held, by someone who certainly was glad to be rid of him, (to put it at its mildest), on Christmas Eve. (Or perhaps it will be the inquest which is held then.. when unfortunately most solicitors are away..skiing and such..)

Will Messers Penningtons be away?

I am watching with bated breath.

What do you think?

I also watch to see the general wrigglings of the Primary Care Trusts - who seem to have indicated to the Health Care Commission that my sister might be asking for compensation. (I should qualify this by stating that I think they mean monetary compensation. If that is true, then it is an absolute lie. (perhaps I could repeat, It is an absolute lie.)) However, the Health Care Commission, which by the way, seems to have no teeth.. no not one.. and it is brand new! (What hope is there?) seems to believe this tosh.

My sister is, however, asking for a form of compensation, as I am. She and I are asking that my father's murderers are brought to justice. Is this too much to ask?

Charlotte Peters Rock
Daughter of the Deceased

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23.11.04

Cruising to where?

The interesting thing about the lovely Nina being away on her cruise, as various people have told me, is that she is using the money which should go to my mother.

She is stealing the money - as far as I can see - which my father had set aside for my mother's upkeep. My mother put up with my father's consorting with prostitutes and others, until it became no longer bearable. She thought a lot about my father, but there were limits.

Her divorce settlement has been in abeyance since the day that my father was killed. (23rd April 2004)

Nina Clayton, who never wanted my father's name, took his money and is currently using it - so I'm told - to take herself and Jill Ward, on a cruise. This is a most laudible achievement, for a low life. But it is hardly the sort of thing which could be expected of a genuinely grieving widow whose husband is, as yet, unburied. I understand that she might have taken several unsubtle wigs with her, which might show her in a light rather more becoming than her present shortage of hair.

However, there is still the problem of what Nettie Marguerite Winstanley is supposed to live on.

It is becoming apparent that she will need to take some of Grange Farm, which is a property which Ralph Winstanley paid for.

It is a pity that this will be the case, but after all she did put up with his philandering with a multitude of women, before finally throwing in the towel, and giving him away, to his current whatever-she-was. I am aware that he never wanted to re-marry because he said so. Perhaps this was because of the company he was keeping? I do not know.

But he took me to one side, before my mother divorced him and said he didn't want her to divorce him.

When I heard he was to be married again, I went to see him. I said I was happy for him. I thought he had found his match. However, he wasn't happy. He said he didn't want to be married to her. Yet he finally seems to have married. I wonder why? What sort of imperative would there be?

It seems I might have been right, about him finding his match. I would rather not have been. It gives me no pleasure.

My father should have been alive now. He has been dead for 7 months.

There is still no Pathology Report. There is still no burial.

He still lies, so I'm told, in the Medico Legal Centre in Sheffield; where I understand Dr Shipman also lies.

My mother has not been paid her alimony since the 23rd April, 2004. That is the day when my father died. Nina Clayton is - so I am told - cruising.

However, she cannot cruise forever.

Charlotte Peters Rock
(Elder daughter of Ralph Winstanley)
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11.11.04

Remembrance - and Ralph Winstanley

11th November 2004
An open letter to South Yorkshire Police, Doncaster East and Doncaster Central Primary Care Trusts – and the so-called ‘friends’ and ‘caring people – who surrounded the death of Ralph Winstanley

On the 11th hour of the 11th month, I was reflecting on the millions of people who died, during the wars of the 20th century and since, and wondering why they bothered.

Young men and women laid down their lives for democracy; for peace; for freedom.

The end result of this is the extremes of misery which still abound amongst the people who led the world in this fight.

We are left with a country where the old can be murdered in their beds and police turn a blind eye, when evidence is presented to them on a plate.

This shambles negates the terrible deaths of generations of people who fought to keep us safe.

Sitting in your eyrie, I do trust that you have found the time to reflect upon this? Though I doubt it very much.

Yours sincerely,
Charlotte Peters Rock
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8.11.04

Like Fairy Godmothers at Sleeping Beauty's Christening

They came, to gather in a covey. Around the bed - no, sorry, not around the bed.. away from the bed. In the room next-door-but-one, around the papers.

Similar to the tale of Sleeping Beauty.. but not quite the same.

It was a gathering of Section A Welsh Pony Studs.. well, not the entire studs.. just the owners.

Keith and Sandy Goodwin of Tame Valley Stud - Section A Welsh Ponies.. all the way from Leicestershire - Packington's a long way off - nearly into Leicester.. just to see Ralph before he died..well, not quite. They did stick their heads round the door though..well I'm sure one of them must have done.

I wonder if they're related to Jonathan? Sweet little Jonathan Goodwin, who won't talk about the 'will. Well I say 'will', but you understand, I use the term 'will' very loosely. I wonder if they're related? Same surname, afer all. Now obviously Jonathan solicits. Does Keith? No. I'm told they're not related, Keith's an estate agent. Sandy said they weren't related.. and she should know.

Brian and Mary Shields.. Ringstead Stud, Section A Welsh Ponies. Good friends of Ralph's..well you'd think so. Brian seems to appear as an Executor of Ralph's 'will'. They came all the way from South Lincolnshire, leaving their Ringstead Stud for the day, to see Ralph. Not too keen to go into the room where he was dying though. Rather keener, it would seem, on helping to sort through the paperwork, which possibly was nothing to do with them. Pity, that. Such a long way to come, as the man was dying. Perhaps they were shy and couldn't bear to see him? Perhaps they realised that he thought he was being helped to live?

Gordon Denton, now he did come into the room. Having arrived from Soldanella Stud in Crowle. He sat there.. Perhaps he was weighing up his job? The job, so my sister and I were told by Nina, (early grieving widow), was to drive the specially shod pony, (shod on Tuesday, ready for the death), Rhys (Reece? Rees?) to the funeral - though what the poor benighted pony had done to deserve this, I am not quite sure.

Anyway, at least Gordon came into the room... and sat awhile. It was a comfort to my sister and I to know that our father might have had a friend.. if Gordon was a friend? Was he? Did he know how our father was dying? Did he approve of what was happening?

Certainly, when I rang him, he refused to speak to me. I do wonder why?

It was just like a gathering of fairy godmothers.. more or less.

But the piece de resistance, after my father died, was the Thanksgiving. Now, I was told that it was organised by Ifor. Sorry, let me introduce you.

Ifor Williams, of Randan, Section A Welsh Pony Stud, right down in Huntington, Herefordshire.

He thought so much about our father, Ralph, that - so I was told - he organised a 'religious' ceremony - which would have been very much against our aetheist father's wishes, with follower of the hunt, the Reverend Eve Atherfold, who was so keen to collect his soul - or at least the wealth of his soul - that she continued with the saddle and pink ceremony, very much against his own family's wishes.

Still it suited the grieving widow. Her hair was specially done.

Pity the photographer had such a rough time. Shouldn't live in the Wild West, I suppose.

No. Ifor told me that he didn't organise the Thanksgiving. I believe him. So, who's telling porkies then?

Now the interesting thing to wonder is, why did they all gather, as my father was dying? Let alone, after he died.

What were they doing? Certainly they were all going through a lot of paperwork, in the room where all of Ralph's paperwork was kept. That is the paperwork which he had given to his younger daughter to sort out for him. She, of course was too concerned about his dying to sort it out then.

It vanished on that day. (Thursday 22nd April, 2004). Just like magic. I wonder what happened to it? Did Ralph's 'friends' come to take a piece of it away? Perhaps a small amount of paperwork each? Something like a part of the Berlin Wall?

You remember how people came, from all over the world to remove (buy?) a piece of the wall, when it came down? Perhaps it was like that?

If not, what else were they doing? I do wonder.

They were certainly not rushing in to see a dying man.. with the minor exception of Gordon.

Thank goodness for Gordon. Though he wouldn't speak to me, when I telephoned him recently. And I still wonder why. If he was a friend of my father, shouldn't he have wished him well?

Gordon Denton, so I'm told, didn't go in for 'kissee, kissee'. He objected to it. So what does he think he knows? Does he feel deprived because he couldn't drive the horse to the funeral? Does he care that the man was dead?

More to the point, dear Gordon, does he care how the man died? Or if it was his time to die?

Perhaps Gordon might like to let me know?

Charlotte Peters Rock
(Elder daughter of Ralph Winstanley - who only had two daughters. My sister, Linda is the other. Of course he also had two sons.)
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1.11.04

Happy Family Days


At Arthur Michael's house, with (left to right)
Arthur Michael, Ralph, Linda (younger daughter),
Richard (younger son)and Ralph's wife, Nettie
(the mother of his only 4 children)

The photograph above, shows Ralph in happier times - before the rot set in.

Regular readers will be interested to know that various people are helping with information, so that my father, Ralph Winstanley, can finally be laid to rest in peace.

I understand that the woman he lived with, will shortly be celebrating her holidays.

More later. I might be busy this week. But do keep the information coming in. It is very much appreciated.

Charlotte - elder daughter of Ralph Winstanley


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Protest songs and poems - coming shortly

  • A Full Index
  • Abide With Me (mine)
  • Dead An Buried? Ardly!
  • Director of Public Health - Dr Tony Baxter
  • If - (not by Rudyard Kipling)
  • Jayne Brown - The Cover-Up Woman
  • Practice - Field Road Made
  • Quack Quack Dr Lee
  • St John's Hospice - My Father Was Not Dying
  • Thanksgivin? Thanksgivin? Ah'll be Waitin On
  • The NHS/PCT Thinks You Should Go
  • The Palliative Gillian
  • The Power behind the Patient Dr Brown

Who was Ralph Winstanley?

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